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Thank You Mr Curley: "Debunker" PROMOTES the "Building What?" Campaign & Pushes Discredited Material (again) to Discredit Himself

Pat Curley of the Screw Loose Change blog was nice enough to help promote the "BuildingWhat?"campaign recently by posting their ad.


Pat, your strategy of posting their video to help out and then inspiring truthers to donate more by insisting that the campaign is failing is brilliant, simply brilliant, my good man! Your genius efforts have now aided in the raising of over $32,000!

This is just like when you claimed that NYC-CAN.org didn't reach the goal of 32,000 signatures for their ballot initiative when they actually gathered 80,000, while you also ridiculed the first weeks numbers of their recent fax campaign. You lit a fire under our butts on that one, helping raise the numbers from 133 in the first week, to 217 the second, 221 the third, and 408 the fourth! All the while, you downplayed our improvement and kept us striving for more!

Again, thank you for promoting our efforts to the uninformed, while also misrepresenting the numbers when we surpass our goals by miles, and for making us feel like not reaching overly ambitious goals is somehow a let down. You keep us inspired brother!

OK, now let's get serious.

Pat states, "LOL! The usual bit about how "nobody knows that another building, which was not hit by a plane, collapsed that day." I have always said that Building 7 is a thin reed to build popular support for the Troof, for the simple reason that it takes too many logical leaps to get to the point where it fits in with the conspiracy theory."

I'm not sure if Pat is really saying that it's false that many people don't know about Building 7, or if he is just saying that it's not surprising because in his mind it was a non-event. In either case, David Ray Griffin's essay "Building What? How SCADs Can Be Hidden in Plain Sight" debunks both of these notions. After providing evidence that the collapse of WTC 7 was a "deliberately suppressed story," Griffin states, "...The collapse of WTC 7 has been effectively hidden, even though it has existed in plain sight all these years. Even the bare fact of the collapse itself has been so effectively hidden that in 2006 over 40 percent of the American public did not know about it, and in 2009 a judge in New York City, upon hearing a reference to Building 7, asked: 'Building what?'"

The essay also addresses a perceived "logical leap" in the idea that conspirators beyond the 19 hijackers had a hand in WTC 7's destruction, Griffin writes:

I need to respond to an obvious objection: If those who were responsible for bringing down Building 7 were going to need to suppress the video of its collapse, why did they wait until late in the afternoon, when the air was clean and cameras would be trained on this building, with the consequence that we have perfectly clear videos of the collapse of this building from various angles, each one showing its straight-down free-fall descent?

Here is an answer to that objection akin to Griffins by Debunking the Debunkers blog contributor AdamT.


Pat states, "It is interesting to see more of a side view of the collapse (at about 16-17 seconds in), because it refutes Box Boy's claim that the collapse was symmetrical, and straight down through the path of most resistance."

As we've demonstrated before, this video refutes nothing.

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The 9/11 Masterminds?????

I was listening to the news the other day and I heard the latest regarding the alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and 4 others that confessed?? under questionable (torture) circumstances.
They alleged masterminds are to be tried in New York.
They are to be tried for the murders of 2,900 plus people on 9/11.
(Is this the real reason New York refused to honor the petition with 80,000 signatures for a new 9/11 investigation?)

Quite a few things went through my mind and I have a few questions.

#1. Haven't we been told for years by our Presidents that Osama-Bin-Laden was the mastermind behind 9/11? Remember the wanted dead or alive thing?
Here is something from Wikipedia regarding:
"The United States government determined that Al-Qaeda, headed by Osama bin Laden, bore responsibility for the attacks, with the FBI stating "evidence linking Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden to the attacks of September 11 is clear and irrefutable". The Government of the United Kingdom reached the same conclusion regarding Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden's culpability for the 11 September attacks."
#2. Didn't Bush try to convince us all that Osama-Bin-Laden was responsible for 9/11 and in charge of those who supposedly flew the planes into the Twin Towers?
#3. Didn't our military go bomb Afghanistan, and send troops over there after Osama and the rest of the Taliban that Osama was supposedly in charge of?
#4. If we have had the masterminds of 9/11 in custody for years then why are our solders still over there in Afghanistan? Why are we sending more to catch a possible non existent Al-Qaeda?
#5. Can we really believe what Khalid Sheikh Mohammed says after he has publicly stated "I make up stories"?
#6. What about the scientific peer reviewed paper that talks about the Thermitic material that was found in the dust of the towers?
#7. What about the lack of NORAD response to 9/11?
#8. What about Bush,Cheney and Rumsfeld's failure to do their jobs the day of 9/11?
#9. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is a Bosnian Citizen as well as a Pakistani citizen NOT A AFGHANISTAN citizen. Did we attack and wage war in the wrong country? Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was born and captured in PAKISTAN NOT AFGHANISTAN.
#10. What about tower 7's collapse?
#11. What about the 9/11 commissioners statements saying the investigation had been obstructed by our own government and 9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton saying; "There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn't have access . . . ."?
#12. What about the ex-CIA veterans that challenge the official reports about 9/11?
#13. If Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the others are the masterminds of 911 then either our government lied or was extremely wrong in everything they have told us regarding Osama and 9/11.
Which is it and how can I ever trust anything they say ever again?

Saying that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed masterminded 9/11 does not answer the questions of the 9/11 families regarding 9/11. It does not explain why whistleblowers told 9/11 family member Patty Casazza that before 9/11 the government knew the exact date and exact targets.
This also does not explain the many anomalies and unanswered questions that have been brought up worldwide regarding the events of 9/11.

Just because they have found a "Mastermind" (possible Patsy) to blame 9/11 on does not answer any of the questions I have regarding 9/11 and our governments involvement in some form or another. As a matter of fact it just brings more questions. I wonder if the government hopes that if they make a huge deal out of this "911 Mastermind??" will we the Truthers just go away?
The answer to that is NO.
Right now the old saying that Truth is stranger than fiction is proving itself to be a fact.

A response to the nuttier response to David Chandler's nutty claims.

A debunker has posted a video in response to David Chandler's recent video "South Tower Smoking Guns".

My take:

The first point I agree with, it probably was just smoke escaping, but their response to Chandler's second smoking gun only focuses on the trail aspect, and not the much more damning fact that the object is falling faster than freefall, as if it was launched downwards. A much more obvious downward ejection can be seen in photographs and videos of the north tower's destruction...

You see that big piece of steel on the right hand side of the picture that's lined up with the roof of Tower 7? In certain videos of the north tower's destruction you can see that it "falls" much faster than the other falling material. The only explanation for this is that the piece had to have been launched downwards by some kind of explosive force.

Included are video clips of the ABC Balzac-Vitry demolition, used to demonstrate how a crushdown is possible. However, although the maker asserts that "Both the upper and lower sections of the buildings [sic] are disintegrated by the buildings [sic] own gravitational energy", they do not show an image of what that building looked like afterwards...

So much for "disintegrated"! Those videos don't debunk anything. In fact they actually demonstrate that a block of falling floors will slow down after colliding with lower floors. Something which Chandler and others have proved didn't happen in the case of the North tower.

As for the projectile, I'm not convinced by it either. I am however now highly intrigued by this missile-like projectile, launched from the collapsing North tower, that hits Building 7.

http://rapidshare.com/files/270158025/NTWTC7HIT.mpg

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