Loughner and Zeitgeist in Perspective

James B. over at Screw Loose Change recently posted part of an article claiming that the film Zeitgeist heavily influenced Jared Loughner. James apparently felt that the article made "enough good points about Jared Loughner and the pan-conspiracy movie Zeitgeist" and "thought it deserved a post." Now while I don't agree with everything about the Zeitgeist Movement, all these claims about the film's connection to the shooting are ridiculous. Poster Freethinkaluva22 has a thread at the FreeThoughtNation forum discussing this incident, and has made some very good points about why all these accusations against the film are baseless.

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To our knowledge, there has never been a single violent incident at any Zeitgeist meeting or showing worldwide, or any call to violence by any member of the Zeitgeist Movement or fan of the Zeitgeist films.

Jared Loughner's friend who claimed Zeitgeist was one of Loughner's favorite films hadn't seen him in two years.

Like the Zeitgeist Movement, we here at Freethought Nation, Truth Be Known and Stellar House Publishing are diametrically opposed to war and violence.
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Jared Lee Loughner (three names!), the latest nutbar to go postal, was apparently a 'truther'. His friend in the video above describes how he was a fan of the movie Loose Change. Other reports say he was also a fan of Zeitgeist.

Not surprisingly, the debunkers are once again using this to demonize us. Pat Curley has written a number of posts, including Truther Body Count, in which he summarizes the high-profile cases of alleged truthers murdering people. Notice he recycles the Anti-Defamation League's thoroughly debunked BS about Poplawski being an Alex Jones fan. Pat concludes...

Paranoid schizophrenics are probably more likely to become Truthers than the general population, and probably more likely to have voices in their heads telling them to kill someone.

And arrogant narcissists are probably more likely to become debunkers than the general population, and probably more likely to exhibit the Fishsticks mentality where they believe themselves to be awesome, when really they're just douchebags. Pat being a prime example! Is paranoid schizophrenia more prevalent amonst truthers than the general population? Such a study has never been done, but I expect alot of truthers would probably be wrongly diagnosed as having paranoid delusions, like Clare Swinney was.

The mainstream media is also emphasizing Loughner's 9/11 conspiracy beliefs. One example is this AOL News article:

9/11 Truther
One former Loughner friend told The Associated Press that in high school Loughner expressed a belief in the 9/11 "Truther" movement -- the idea that the government was behind the Sept. 11 attacks. This makes the death of 9-year-old Christine Green, who was born on Sept. 11, 2011 [sic], all the more poignant.

So now if you believe 9/11 was an inside job, you don't just offend the family members, you want to kill nine year old girls who were born on 9/11!



Loughner's friend also said he enjoyed smoking Salvia Divinorum, a hallucinogenic herb recently made famous by Miley Cyrus. So using the propagandist's flawed logic, I guess that means she's a killer too!

Why is it when you point out that the systematic genocide of six million jews at the hands of the Nazis was driven by Darwinian ideology, the 'liberals' and 'skeptics' insist that that in no way discredits belief in Darwinism; yet when the odd deranged nut who happens to believe 9/11 was a false-flag kills a few people, those same 'liberals' and 'skeptics' shamelessly exploit the tragedy to smear us?